England the 'unfinished business' of devolution say MPs

Unfinished: England still needs devolution reform
Unfinished: England still needs devolution reform

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By Jonathan Moore

There is still a need for "fundamental change" in the governance of England, a committee of MPs said today.

After ten years of devolution the committee found England was stuck in a "pre-devolution time warp" while the rest of the country had moved on.

There was serious criticism for the Barnett formula which the committee found was in dire need of reform and "no longer fit for purpose" and urged the government to publish its position "as a matter of some urgency".

In its report Devolution: A Decade On the justice committee said that while there was consensus on the need for a change to the devolutionary formula, there was no clear answer as to what that change should be.

"There is no consensus about solutions to the 'English question', or the range of questions which arise under that heading," committee chairman Sir Alan Beith said.

"But England, which has 84 per cent of the population, is the unfinished business of devolution-stuck in a pre-devolution time warp, while the rest of the UK has moved on. The funding formula is also a relic from earlier times, taking no account of the current need of the various nations and regions of the United Kingdom."

The committee found there were a number of solutions presented as possible alternatives to the current system but none appeared to provide a definitive solution to the problem.

Some called for the creation of additional devolved parliaments such as an English one or several based on the English regions while others have sought to redress the problem of the West Lothian question with English-only votes in parliament or a reduction in the number of Scottish and Welsh MPs.

"Each suggested answer has its own problems and limitations, and while some attempt to address issues around centralisation, others attempt to address the West Lothian question," said Sir Alan.

"Those which deal to any major extent with the West Lothian question, like an English parliament and English votes for English laws, raise significant problems in a state where one of its constituent territories has 84 per cent of the population".

The Barnett formula, which was subject to particular criticism by the committee, is a system of wealth distribution based on population rather than need or contribution for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

The committee's conclusion was that it was "no longer fit for purpose and that reform is overdue". The system has been consistently condemned for providing much higher per capita public spending in Scotland despite a far more pertinent need in deprived areas of England and Wales.

Even its creator, Lord Barnett, has lobbied for a change in the system.

In January this year he told a Lords' investigation, which he pushed for: "I was worried that the formula will so upset people in England that they will demand a separation which, in my view, will be hugely damaging, as I have no wish to see the UK split into three separate countries.

"I thought it didn't seem fair and therefore should be reviewed, with a view to seeing what changes were needed and what these changes should be."

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  • "Alan Beith is one of those that still calls for the abolition of England with regional assemblies. The public,when asked in the north east referendum said No.Other referendaon regional assemblies in Yorkshire and the North West were cancelled because they knew the answer again would be No. Beith is more interested in having Scots and Welsh lib'dem MP's helping him have a stronger say in English affairs regardless that the public think it's wrong or not.Those MP's who are for regional assemblies should tell their constituents at the next election and let the voters decide if they want anti English people to represent them at westminster."

    Alan Dent (Halifax England) Posted: 24/05/2009 01:23:27

  • "Why I am thinking that the preferred solution will result in the regionalisation of England. I live in Australia (for work reasons)at the moment, which manages to maintain relatively independant states with widely differing populations such as Tasmania and New South Wales, as well as hugely differing sizes, ie Victoria and Western Australia. It works folks, it works! Any argument against full devolution to an English Parliament based on this faulty argument must be rejected."

    Ellacar (Brisabane Australia) Posted: 24/05/2009 01:57:37

  • "The English Question needs to be addressed as part of the wholesale review of the UK constitution and parliament that will be necessary in the wake of the MPs' expenses scandal. We can't allow new systems and structures to be put in place for the Westminster Parliament without addressing the English democratic deficit, which is one of the main reasons why so many people now feel that Parliament no longer represents them. The different options for an English parliament, or English sub-parliament within a UK parliament, should be debated and submitted to a referendum as part of a UK citizens' convention to re-shape our constitution and democratic institutions."

    britologywatch (Cambridge) Posted: 24/05/2009 05:51:19

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